People are mad that you can kill suffragettes in Red Dead Redemption 2 and it’s hysterical.
Pretty sure it’s just a bunch of guys being edgelords. Hardly newsworthy.
Plus it’s not like you can just beat up a suffragette without facing consequences such as having a bounty put on your head for attacking a civilian.
The game actively disincentivizes killing these people. Also, you get multiple opportunities to horribly murder KKK members and you actually gain positive reputation for doing so.
Ku Klux Klan? Suffragettes?
Where is the difference and what is the loss? I’m not in the business of picking and choosing bigots.
I saw that video earlier and thought it was hilarious. That lady is wildly annoying.
The problem is, they actually didn’t, and we don’t.
Prior to the suffragettes’ agitation in the UK, there existed a universal suffrage movement making slow progress over time, because a limited set of both sexes could vote, but neither sex had universal voting rights. A similar movement evolved in the areas colonized by the British Empire. Attitudes within these movements evolved as society evolved, resulting in repeated calls to widen the spectrum of people who had the franchise. The suffragettes waded into this environment interested only in women’s voting rights after the most recent UK law at the time to reduce economic standards for the franchise used the word “men,” thereby excluding the upper-class women who were, to that point, accustomed to having those rights.
That’s correct – women had voting rights prior to the suffragette movement in Britain. They were just limited to women who met the same economic standards men had to meet in order to have the right to vote.
Their response was a massive, violent temper tantrum that included bombing churches, random bombing of publicly used mailboxes, throwing rocks through windows of private businesses, public disruptions, and plotting to kill members of parliament. They exploited lower income and minority women’s interests with no intention of actually seeing the franchise extended to them.
The U.S. suffragettes were less overtly violent, but not less racist or classist. They opposed the 15th amendment because they could not stomach the idea of black men getting voting rights before white women. This, despite the fact that part of the reason for the 15th amendment was the that many emancipated slaves took up arms and fought in the civil war.
Susan B. Anthony openly claimed white women had it rougher in life than black men did.
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According to Elizabeth Cady Stanton, “What will we and our daughters suffer if these degraded black men are allowed to have the rights that would make them even worse than our Saxon fathers?”
Man-hating AND racist… but feminism was always about equality, right?
Then there was Anna Howard Shaw, president of the National Woman Suffrage Association, who opposed the 15th amendment by claiming it would make black men “political superiors of white women.”
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If that’s not openly racist enough for you, Mississippi state senator Belle Kearney flat-out said that “The enfranchisement of women would insure immediate and durable white supremacy.”
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Frances Willard, founder of the National Council of Women, compared black people to locusts.
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Rebecca Ann Latimer Felton, first woman to serve in the Senate, called black men “ravening beasts” and responded to the possibility of black suffrage predating women’s by advocating lynching.
Suffragettes target the Tea Rooms, Kew Gardens, London
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St Catherine’s Church, Hatcham, engulfed in flames after a suffragette arson attack, May 14th, 1913.
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At best, feminists have taken credit for something otherwise inevitable that they hindered. Rather than a struggle to free women from a system of gendered oppression, their actions were nothing but another example of feminism’s gendered approach to genderless issues.
David Lloyd George’s Surrey home was bombed by suffragettes in 1913
The first terrorist bomb to explode in Ireland in the 20th century was planted not by the IRA, but by the suffragettes.
They also invented the letter bomb; designed to maim or kill those with whom they disagreed.
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and racism seemed to have done little more than set back their efforts by convincing that same public and those same lawmakers during the same time, that women were not rational enough to be trusted with voting rights, delaying reform rather than achieving it.
Suffragists, on the other hand, used public speaking, handing out leaflets, and talking to people directly to build public support for universal suffrage, with the goal of influencing lawmakers through that public support. They had quite a bit to advocate. When the suffragettes began agitating, about 1 in 4 British men could vote.
Meanwhile, there are examples of women voting before the women’s suffrage movement. To do so, they had to meet the same qualifications men had to meet, save for one: They couldn’t be drafted to fight in wartime.
As in the UK, US suffragettes began agitating supposedly for voting rights for all women in an environment in which their male countrymen’s voting rights were far from universal.
And as in the UK, US suffragettes really didn’t mean ALL WOMEN. US suffrage history shows that.
supreme court ruled that Native Americans were not even citizens as defined by the 14th Amendment, and therefore could not vote. In 1890, they were told they could apply to become naturalized citizens in their own ancestral land. Laws denying citizenship to various Asian immigrants passed in 1882 (the Chinese exception) and 1922 (Japanese immigrants.) In 1919 Native Americans and in 1925 Filipinos were told they could earn citizenship by risking their lives serving in American wars.
In some areas, local laws, violent intimidation, and arbitrary literacy tests and poll taxes, left most minorities and the poor subject to the rule of the American government without representation by officials for (or against) whom they had the right to vote – the same injustice that sparked the Revolutionary war. Asian-Americans did not see their voting rights universally recognized until the McCarran-Walter Act of 1952. Native Americans’ right to vote was not fully recognized until 1957.
It was not until 4 years after the first manned American space flight and 4 years before we put a man on the moon, that the Voting Rights Act passed, protecting the rights of all voters, minorities included. Upper class white women got the vote in 1920. Impoverished citizens and minority men and women did not truly get theirs until 1965.
So miss me with the excuses to defend suffragettes.
The suffragettes were worse than antifa.
So in other words, nothing has changed?
let me consult the Femin-ecronomicon of all sources and broken links.
I’mso glad youtube had a shit over the RDR2 vids of this; withoutvthat, people wouldn’t be cockslapping suffragette memories
Part of me would even question if you could even call it “their memory” because the live feminist used to try to emotionally manipulate and guilt trip other women is much fucking bullshit.
It’s like there’s no trace of the suffragettes actual history there.
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