People who make callout posts about people whos only crimes are liking hentai/anime that doesn’t even involve underage characters are actually shitting on children currently undergoing CSA and survivors of it.
There is a serious problem with people’s mentality on this site when it’s uncovered that massive amounts of actual CP (actual photographs of real children being abused) were being hosted on tumblr and that’s why it got removed from the App Store. Not only that, some of these blogs were apparently run by parents who talked about sexually abusing their own children.
And you know what the anti-kink/anti-shippers response immediately was, and why it makes me so sick to my fucking stomach as a survivor of CSA?
They completely ignore that there was actual CSA and trafficking happening and immediately start whining about voltron shippers and “the hentai freaks” getting tumblr almost deleted. Like, did they even read the fucking news? Are they even capable of reading? Or do they actually not give a shit about actual real life victims? Honestly I’m leaning towards both at this point. They don’t care about victims unless they can be used as pawns by the “leaders” of this movement on tumblr.
You have callout posts on this site that are like “this person is a pedophile here’s proof” and the “proof” is anime drawings they’ve reblogged of characters who aren’t even canonically underaged. Or people calling a drawing of Mina Ashido in a cheerleading outfit child pornography.
You know what this is doing? It’s literally watering down the meaning of important and useful terms such as “pedophilia” and “child pornography” which are supposed to have clear definitions so that people know that someone is a danger to children/children are being harmed.
This isn’t actually something that’s too far off from what I’ve seen actual pedophiles do. I’ve read MAP tumblrs out of morbid curiosity and something I often noticed is whenever MAPs talked about legalizing child pornography they wouldn’t specify that “actually we only mean fictional stuff such as lolicon :)” until other people rightfully jumped down their fucking throats. (Note: I don’t trust that they only mean fictional content.)
Antis are also like this however in the vagueness of how they use terms such as “pedophilia” and “child pornography” but in the opposite direction. To them, almost anything can be defined as “actual child pornography” at this point and that is dangerous.
I got shat on by people saying that I was defending child pornography for this post despite the picture in question that was called out being a non-sexualized completely sfw drawing of Mina from BNHA.
When someone uses a sentence such as “jack off to child porn” most people will assume they are literally jacking off to images of real life children being abused, not a fucking sfw anime drawing.
This is dangerous because it creates a “boy who cried wolf” scenario and literally gives ammunition to actual fucking pedophiles to abuse children.
Whenever people hear about someone who “jacks off to cp” or is a “pedophile” their immediate first response shouldn’t be conditioned to be “okay is this person actually a pedo or do they just fap to fictional anime characters?” Eventually, people will become fatigued and will just stop even checking.
Pedophiles love this. They clearly love the fact that these terms are getting watered down because it creates “reasonable doubt” that when they talk about “legalizing child pornography” they’re clearly capitalizing on it by using the same vague broad definition that antis use that encompasses even sfw anime drawings. It also draws the attention away from them so they can continue abusing children.
This is so fucking horrifying.
I always wondered why this is, but since then, several antis have told me: It’s because they don’t care about the children, only about the pedophiles. One viewed “how is it any better for a pedophile to jack off to cartoon porn than to for them to touch an actual child” as an amazing game-winning “gotcha!” question to which no one could possibly have an answer. Another responded to my suggestion that maybe the cartoon porn case was better with “no it’s fucking not! well, technically…”
They don’t care what happens to the kids. They care what happens to the pedophiles.
This is consistent with my model of anti behavior.
I get the feeling that a lot of the problem is that they base their morality on things like disgust rather than on realistic consequences involving other people.
If you have consequence-based ethics then hurting real people is usually clearly worse than anything that could happen in your thoughts or to fictional characters. Real people can suffer while fictional characters can’t.
This is how they seem to justify abusing real people over dumb voltron ships. Their moral framework doesn’t actually treat anime space twinks as being something morally separate from people who actually exist.
You need to actually push them into talking possible real life negative consequences from voltron shipping, and when they do it always seems like an afterthought. Like they just copypasted the old conservative/radfem argument of “if you enjoy something in fiction you will train yourself to enjoy it in real life” and didn’t give it further thought. They just accept it as true because it serves their emotions.
A combination of moral outrage and an abusive personality seems to be central to a lot of anti behavior.
why does no one ever like. mention the weird part of all of our childhoods where we thought we were too cool for the shows we grew up with like i Know that wasnt just an isolated thing like everyone used to make fun of dora the explorer and barney especially i remember everyone used to sing to the tune of barney “i hate you, you hate me, lets strap barney to a tree, with a great big bomb and stick it through his head, 3-2-1 barneys dead” like….. that was so fucked,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, why was that a thing……
we used to sing “i hate you, you hate me, let’s all go and kill barney, with a baseball and a two by four, no more purple dinosaur”
there were probably hundreds of variations ive heard so many thts fcked
How did it even happen, there was no internet for us to get our grubby little paws on, no memes making fun of children’s shows, it was just a bunch of small telepathically linked children hating a purple dinosaur in unison ???
Over here in Malaysia and Singapore I’ve heard (and learned to sing) “I hate you, you hate me, let’s all go and kill Barney. With a great big gun, Barney’s on the floor. No more stupid dinosaur.”
It just creeps me out that kids from other countries do the same thing. Where the hell did we learn this from??
Anyone else here know of the Joy to the World version? Went some something like “Joy to the world, Barney is dead. We barbecued his head. Don’t worry about the body, we flushed it down the potty. And round and round it goes (x3).“ Like seriously, what the hell did this purple dinosaur do to make us all so violent
I heard the Joy to the World version of the rhyme in school. Most people didn’t even know WHY barney was bad they just thought he was scary or knew him as “that purple dinosaur on Pogo’s Tiny TV block”