Seriously tho, don’t use “but the racists are getting a pass!” while complaining that shipping communities are losing a safe and empowering place to share porn.
The most dominant shipping communities uphold racist aesthetic ideals, methodically erase people of color from their narratives and uphold white men as superior to all – and they continue to congratulate themselves for their own enlightenment while doing it.
Instead of glorifying shipping communities as empowering spaces for women, this is an opportunity to talk about what’s really lurking under that so-called subversive feminism.
After all the ugliness they’ve injected into Tumblr fan spaces, we can do better than letting them go down as martyrs. (Again.)
I mean the reason nipple is happening is partly their fault. A lot of adult, female shippers had zero problem with shipping adult characters with minors. Hell, when Big Hero 6 came out, the tags we full of racist, pedophilic art featuring Hiro and his brother. These women aren’t heroes, they’re part of the problem.
Yes, how tumblr is handling this entire this is low but part of the reason this is happening is because of adult shippers, mainly female ones.
These women aren’t heroes, they’re part of the problem.
Yup.
“Why don’t they take care of the Nazis instead of us”? – Sad fact: The amount of racist crap I’ve gotten from female shippers on Tumblr absolutely obscures the amount I’ve gotten from actual alt-righties. I’ll get some rightwing dudes mocking me now and then, but the harassment, the campaigns to take me down for blogging about racism in fandom, the false accusations, have all come from women shippers. Not all white, but all women, and 100% from so-called “subversive” shipping communities.
These are the women we create holocaust or Native American AUs without batting an eye. I’ve had female shippers send me death threats and I had one tell me I should get hit by a bus. Yeah, that’s totally feminist.
Also, these women are dangerous too. They have influence over fandom and there are tons of minors they can potentially harm. Why doesn’t anyone care? Isn’t their safety more important than this faux feminism?
Again, the reason for nipplegate is the fault of adult women who have been making fandom unsafe from the get go
I love how you both blame adult women specifically for this debacle (as if there aren’t plenty of men and teens who ship the “bad nasty things”) and not, I dunno, incompetent website moderation combined with corporate greed
This post is literally about how targeting the “wrong kind of” fiction is, historically, only part one in crackdowns against general LGBT content in fandom spaces.
And yet, somehow, women are to blame for this, and not incompetent, greedy, homophobic corporations.
But nah, think of the children, etc, and ends justify the means, I guess. Because hey, fuck LGBT people if we can punish those gross old (mostly queer) women for drawing cartoon characters, right?
Congrats on derailing a post about racism.
I blame the adult women who fly into attack mode when racism is brought up for their actions. Transformative fandom doesn’t deserve to be lionized with zero acknowledgement of its rampant racism.
Since it is being lionized across the internet in response to the Tumblr Purge, I’m absolutely going to point out its long-standing racism. If you want to make that into something homophobic, that’s on you.
So anyone who objects to your cold dead take on how “adult shippers are to blame for nipplegate” is also to blame for nipplegate, somehow?
Also, the discussion of fandom racism has been around for years, including among shippers. Talking about concerns over censorship doesn’t mean that somehow everyone forgot that racism within fandom spaces is a thing.
Nobody’s lionizing anything. People are, quite understandably, angry at corporate censorship and corporate incompetence, which almost always hits marginalised people (such as queer people, many of whom are in shipping communities) harder than those in power (which includes white supremacist blogs). That’s why people are talking about this, and that’s why people are angry.
You’re intentionally trying to twist the situation to focus once again onto fans’ faults, because you can’t bear for a moment for people to direct their anger towards the groups who actually have power and actually cause harm, or see people sympathise with folks you have a grudge against.
Blaming censorship on the victims of censorship is disgusting, and you should be ashamed of yourself.
OP you suck, and you’re exactly the reason why no one can have good discussions on how not to be racist, because y’all start defending actual censorship and homophobic pedophilia libel and blatant misogyny and make outrage for the sake of outrage, misapplying serious issues to generate excuses, because it’s more fun for you than tackling actually issues, which would require you to admit nuance exists and your “enemies” are real people who can change instead of fun punching bag toys.
Not to mention that, in actuality, where else do marginalized writers and artists even get heard of? Meanwhile, in fandom spaces, by design, literally anyone can be seen and heard if they tag well. Particularly on AO3, but before Tumblr fucked up how tags and search worked—which is entirely the fault of Yahoo’s execs and brogrammers—here as well. There are no official gatekeepers, no interviews with those already in power, not even real names and people guessing your demographics from them. Just tags and date posted. So long as you tag well and post regularly, which are skills, not inherent attributes, you got heard. I dare you to act like that’s somehow more racist than mainstream publishing.
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