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Apparently??? In North Carolina??? Assaulting against a black person is only a Class 2 misdemeanor??? But if a black person assaults a white person then it is a class A1 Misdemeanor (the same as an assault with a deadly weapon)???

Which means that by default under law, black people who assault white people get a larger sentence than white people who attack black or white people???

So basically the state of North Carolina is admitting that black victims are less important than white ones? They are agreeing that black people deserve longer sentences by default just for being born black? They are agreeing that the lives and safety of white people should be held higher than that of black people?

And people on this website have the nerve to laugh when I bring up issues black people face. People keep saying “Blacks don’t have issues because they don’t suffer at a government level!” Umm news flash: We do. You just don’t care. Activists don’t care. And this isn’t even one of the big issues that I could have brought up, but I know people will see this injustice and just scroll over it JUST because t happens to black people. Like the fact that black people are the victims makes it okay to ignore. 

What other big issues you ask? How about how until 2013,

the FBI’s Uniform Crime Report (UCR) only counted as rape if a black person raped a white person? BLACK PEOPLE WERE NOT PROPERLY COUNTED AS  POTENTIAL  RAPE VICTIMS BY THE FBI UNTIL 2013!  And even though it technically counts as rape now for a white person to rape a black person, bias in courts and public opinion still often downplays the act and charge to simple sexual assault, if that. We still have incredibly skewed rape statistics of black victims because we only just started recognizing them by definition. by law. And why would black people want to come out as rape victims when society and activists say they cant be victims. I even see it in white feminism all the time! THERE ARE LITERALLY ENTIRE COUNTRIES THAT DON’T COUNT RAPE IF A WHITE PERSON DOES IT TO A BLACK PERSON!!! There are even countries where the government tried to fix the biased definition to be neutral so anyone could be charged with rape if they did it. White people got it switched back. And people laugh whenever I bring up black victims of rape. We even have a person, a big name professor, making studies on domestic violence and rape who openly admit that they don’t think white people are capable of committing sexual or physical violence on black people? Like this is a thing that they unapologetically believe? And her obviously biased studies on rape and domestic violence between black people and white people gets used by colleges, repeated in presidential debates, and even by our former president, vice president, and first lady. The fact that we take her work seriously is appalling. Like the audio recording of her proudly admitting her bias on sexual violence is readily available to hear. 

Not to mention the increasingly popular domestic violence prevention programs that specifically and only target black aggressors. They blame black people and only black people for domestic violence against white people, completely ignoring black victims to white aggressors? Like this is a thing? That is widespread? Where they hold classes to teach black people and only black people how not to be aggressors. It is the core of the program that without black people, domestic violence would not exist? The basis of the theory is that black people are just violent and controlling by default? And now black people, who already had trouble reporting being victims of domestic violence to white aggressors, now have legal profiling against them. It is to the point where police go by this aggressor clause and view the aggressor, not by what is happening on the scene, but by physical identifiers of most black people. In fact, black people who call the police on  white aggressor are MORE likely to be arrested themselves??? Why would any of my fellow black people ever want to call the police with that in mind?

There is so much more that black people have to deal with that aren’t getting even a fraction of the attention that they deserve. Don’t be a part of the problem.

IF YOU THINK THE POINTS MADE HERE ABOUT HOW OUR TREATMENT OF BLACK PEOPLE IN THE US IS TERRIBLE, PLEASE SHOW YOUR SUPPORT HERE!!!!!

A pretty good time to bring this back.

You realise there are physical differences between men and women. right? The vast majority of men is stronger than the vast majority of women, and considerably so.

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Is it that hard to see why assaults are charged differently if it’s a man against a woman? Black people have always been charged much harsher than white people, to this day because of a racist bias where black people are viewed as more violent, overall stronger and a larger threat. Great move using that to get people mad about a law that’s actually in place because of real strength differences. 

You realise that all men and women are different, right? Short men exist. Tall women exist. Skinny men exist. Muscular women exist. But we dont determine the sentencing based on height or how fit someone is. Black people have broken so many olympic records and it can easily be argued that black people are stronger and faster as a race. We dont have any laws or crime definition that says (demands) black people should be sentenced longer.

Our only sentencing disparity specified by law is on gender. Which is discrimination.

Black people get sentenced longer than white people at around 10-19% longer depending on ghe state. And this is a liberal estimate (as in loose estimate in your favor, not the political stance). Men get sentenced to 63% longer sentencing than women and if is even enforced by crime definitions. Men experience this at many times the rate (roughly 16 times) as black people do.

It’s considered discrimination when it happens to black people, but these inequalities are defended and perpetuated when men are the victims.

You cannot demand equality to men or to be treated the same if you arent willing to take the same responsibilities and punishments that men do.

But congrats to you for at least checking a link or two.

Considering laws are in place for the entire population, they’re gonna be based on averages, on classes rather than individuals. 

Yeah there are some outliers but they’re no reason to throw out pattern recognition and pretend that a man assaulting a woman is the exact same as a man assaulting a man. The truth is that in the vast majority of cases, men are going to have a considerable strength advantage and be able to cause far more damage to someone who is far less able to defend themselves, even compared to a man assaulting another man who’s much weaker than him.

I’m roughly the size of an average 13 year old and there’s at least a few 11 year olds who could kick my ass, but you don’t see me complaining about the section of the law you linked that recognises children under 12 as a vulnerable class and considers assault against them as a worse crime. I recognise that it’s overall a good thing to have laws that acknowledge these differences and that even with potential outliers, and that these laws are bound to be more fair than ones that treat everyone as if they’re equal. If that’s your concept of equality, you can keep it.

Again, you really dont understand how easily your argument can be swapped for other attributes that you actually care about.

We do not have crime definitions that say being older decreases your sentencing for assault, we dont have crime definitions that state that Asians (generally smaller in stature) should be sentenced less, or that short people should be sentenced less, or that skinnier people should be sentenced less. The only one we have says that women and women alone should be sentenced less, for no other reason than that they are women.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1_2gl7lz25E

We have entire countries that specify that only men can be charged with certain crimes or that men should be charged more by default, and it is an inequality. It is mindsets like yours that lead to things like men being much much much less likely to report bejng abused than women. It is biases like that which lead police to be more likely to arrest the male victim who called for help, rather than the female aggressor. It is attitudes like yours that make mockeries of male victims and allow them to be jokes rather than taken seriously as victims.

Crimes should be defined by your actions, not your gender or skin color, or sexual orientation or how you were born. The generalization should be that this *person* assaulted another *person*, and should get the punishment that a *person* should get for such a crime. You know, like how we treat every other crime.

And by the way one law treating one group “more fair” than another isnt really equality. So yes, i will keep my concept of equality, and attempt to spread it so that blatant inequalities like these are avoided. You cannot punish people for things that are out of their control. Screw me for thinking that way, right?

If it all really WAS based on averages, mothers who abuse their children would actually do some fucking jail time since mother’s tend to abuse more often on average.

Since that isn’t the case… Yeah, it’s sexism.

Native Americans and African Americans are more likely to be child abusers, especially when it results in the child’s injury or death.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/254857/child-abuse-rate-in-the-us-by-race-ethnicity/

Guess we should start changing crime definitions to punish Black people and Native Americans more for the same crime.

I’m very surprised the Asian count is so low. Maybe this chart only counts physical abuse. If emotional abuse was included the Asian count would probably go through the roof.

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