siryouarebeingmocked:

generalchelseamayhem:

auntiewanda:

generalchelseamayhem:

auntiewanda:

delicatetacostudent-blog:

imawomanwhatsyoursuperpower:

If we want to talk about responsibility we must stop talking about violence against women in a passive way.

Because one thing is to ask “ how many women are killed by men every year “ and another is to ask “ how many men kill women every year “.

Can you see the difference?

The subject of the sentence is important.

Let’s stop putting the woman as a subject because it leads to phrases like: “ yes, but she’d been drinking? How was she dressed? “

Begin to put men as the subject “ How did he act? How did he take advantage of her? How did he kill her? “

Disclaimer: this is not the right post to argue with phrases like NOT ALL MEN or WHAT ABOUT WOMEN WHO BEAT MEN? Not because they don’t have sense in general, but because right now we are not talking about that.

This sounds like a very informal and non friendly to debate. Assault and rape is terrible sure, but I think talking about it should be more informational then biased.

How is it not informational? How is it more biased than the other way around? Considering that men commit 97% of sexual assaults with women as the majority victims of their crimes why the hell should this be a “friendly” debate?

Rape (revised definition): Penetration, no matter how slight, of the vagina or anus with any body part or object, or oral penetration by a sex organ of another person, without the consent of the victim. (This includes the offenses of rape, sodomy, and sexual assault with an object as converted from data submitted via the National Incident-Based Reporting System.)

Oh look, the FBI chose a definition which specifically excludes the main ways in which women can rape people.

Your 97.1% gender split is meaningless without, say, rape by envelopment data, or forced oral sex of the other kind that the FBI doesn’t mention.

Ah yes I keep hearing about this supposed epidemic of female rapists that would totally make the sex crime statistics the 50/50 split “egalitarians” so dearly wish they could argue so they can go on pretending that women aren’t oppressed as a sex and class. 

I’m sure you have studies and data on this. You know, burden of proof, innocent until proven guilty, all those things that matter so much until MRAs want to deny reality.

Sure thing! Here’s the National Intimate Partner and Sexual Violence Survey on the subject. You can find it here.

Notice how the men who were raped outnumber the number of women who were raped over a 12 month period, and the number of men who were specifically raped by being made to penetrate still somewhat outnumber the women who were raped.

Elsewhere, some of the other numbers suggest parity between the sexes. Some definitely do not. But none of them come anywhere close to suggesting a 97% gender imbalance for perpetrators.

That’s what happens when you consider all kinds of rape.

I like how wanda claims she’s seen the argument before, but has somehow never seen evidence. Ironic how she harps on evidence, >considering some< >of the silly< >and incorrect< >arguments she’s made<. Notice the last one; she was once more concerned about the idea that Indian rape laws might be referred to with a different term than the fact that men aren’t recognized as rape victims, period.

I also like how her response delicatetacostudent-blog’s criticism was to immediately try and play Oppression Olympics, even though the point she made is actually completely irrelevant to the question of the pic’s persuasiveness. Wanda thinks women have a Universal Victim License.

Five bucks says she claims MTP is somehow different from rape, either by making up an excuse on the spot, or quoting that FOIA letter from the CDC where they said Made to Penetrate isn’t rape because it just isn’t, okay?

As for OP; feminism already has a problem with the stereotype of collectively blaming men for everything – a stereotype which makes many women reject feminism –  and you think doing precisely that is a good idea? Why? How?

What exactly is your goal, here? Do you want people to listen, or do you just want to blame men? And who exactly is using passive language for this stuff anyway? If this march is about helping women, why are you determined to make men the subject? “How many people eat at Joe’s every day?” is not the same question as “how many Joe’s employees feed people every day?”.

Funny she mentions the Indian rape laws because feminist groups shooting down the proposal to make rape gender neutral had a direct hand in LGBT being recriminalized. And you know, that hurt lesbians, bi women, and trans women too. 

Yeah if rape laws aren’t gender neutral, shit like this can happen. Not to mention you’re hurting any victim of rape that isn’t m/f… INCLUDING f/f rape victims.