Also re the “innocent before proven guilty” thing too: we aren’t talking about a regular job, we are talking about a LIFETIME job where you get to make decisions that affect MILLIONS of people, and the only way to get you off that job is if you choose to retire or you die.
Like, knowing Americas storied history of assassinations and gun violence in general, I am very surprised Kavanaugh is willing to even go for it anymore: there are many people don’t want you in that job and they know that if you get the job the only way to get you off that job is murder. Like… I’d gotta be 100% sure there isn’t anyone out there willing to take one for the team to accept that job in a position like that. We’re talking a country where murder implements are laughably easy to come by.
>Also re the “innocent before proven guilty” thing too: we aren’t talking about a regular job, we are talking about a LIFETIME job where you get to make decisions that affect MILLIONS of people, and the only way to get you off that job is if you choose to retire or you die.
So, by your logic, a hearing about a job that is more important than most job should have lower standards of evidence?
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Like, knowing Americas storied history of assassinations and gun violence in general,
What on Earth are you on about?
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I am very surprised Kavanaugh is willing to even go for it anymore: there are many people don’t want you in that job and they know that if you get the job the only way to get you off that job is murder.
And yet you don’t seem concerned that the accusations are making more people want him dead.
Also, AFAIK, there have been a whopping 0 SCOTUS judges murdered in office, unless you count the Scalia theory.
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We’re talking a country where murder implements are laughably easy to come by.
And yet the vast and overwhelming majority of gun owners never harm another human in their entire lives, and most gun crime and murder is not with legally owned firearms.
But I guess America could limit pocketknives, like the UK. Those are “murder implements” too, right?
If you’re deigning all guns as “murder implements”, you’re either very poorly informed, or lying. Given the rest of your nonsensical post, I know which horse I’m putting my money on.
WOW so let’s talk about what a whopping assbag this dude is –
He starts off by insisting that women just “don’t lie” about rape, ever, because there’s no money in it – he “proves” this by citing two cases where women were very publicly asked to say they were raped or had affairs with public figures for money. These nutjobs put an ad out, and he’s shocked that few people came forward? Of course nobody took the damn deal, it was obviously a ploy and anyone taking it would have had to admit they were doing it for the money, and it’s a CRIME. This is the worst possible example he could have used, and he knows it.
His second example isn’t even rape, it was a consensual affair so why even bother including it? He just put a hole in his own fucking argument, the only example he’s got of someone coming forward was someone who had a consensual affair, wasn’t claiming a crime happened, and couldn’t have been arrested for saying so. If I go on TV and offer 1 million to anyone who will come shoot someone on TV, and nobody shows up, does it prove shootings never happen? FUCK NO. Kids when you’ve barely started your woke ass Twitter lecture and you’re already scraping the bottom of the barrel, that’s not a good sign.
“Men aren’t ruined by false accusations”, and he claims this by pointing at the very tippy top 1% of men who are accused – the rich and the powerful, and his claim is still a complete lie. Even an accusation that isn’t ever proven can follow a man around for the rest of his life, just look at how mattress girl destroyed Paul Nungesser’s life and reputation. Now that she’s known as a fraud, morally defunct asswipes like this guy will claim SHE had her life “destroyed”.
According to captain wow up there, this is all proof that Kav “hasn’t been falsely accused”. Within his first chunk of his little speil he’s already appealing to anything, anything BUT actual proof, including claiming that the number of accusers somehow by itself proves he did it. “In absence of proof he DIDNT do it, he did!”. That’s. NOT. HOW. THIS. WORKS. It is a CRIMINAL accusation.
He says Ford can’t be lying because her story isn’t immediately “unbelievable”. He claims she doesn’t “fall into the typical category” of false accusers so she can’t possibly be lying or just mistaken.
I can’t fucking fathom the type of mindset it takes to make this kind of backwards, disgusting argument. I can’t wrap my fucking head around it, people actually say this shit and then act like it’s unreasonable to say it’s a little scary to be a dating-age male in the era of weaponized sexual assault allegations.
I don’t know what to SAY, I don’t know what I even need to say to such blatantly cherry picked, spurious bullshit like this. It makes me want to grab this motherfucker and shake him, do you not understand what you’re advocating for?? He tries to say burden of proof and due process doesn’t apply because it’s a “job interview”, ITS A CRIMINAL ACCUSATION. DUE PROCESS STILL MATTERS.
I’m going to fucking vomit I’m so angry reading this bullshit; It’s rare that I actually hate people with stupid opinions but if you read this shit and think it’s reasonable in any way, shape, or form you deserve to be hated, this blatant hand waving away of people’s rights is evil. Congrats, you’ve politicized rape and made politics even filthier than it was before. OP and their little cheerleader retard ought to have their lives ruined by a false allegation and see what they have to say then.
What did you really expect though? It’s a pseudointellectual leftist jackass using the unwieldy platform of Twitter to pompously pontificate accepted ideology like it were scientific fact.
We’ve seen this before so many goddamn times. Remember “jokes are social constructs and therefore cant be just funny” guy?
But people eat it up and it’s depressing to have factual proof that in general people this stupid not only exist but have loud and open support
After seeing shit like this over and over it becomes impossible to maintain any sort of optimism.
“Hurrrrrrrrrrrrrr mattress girl didn’t ruin his life because he succeeded IN SPITE of a false allegation!!”
Oh, I also forgot to add Kobe Bryant and Craig Charles from Red Dwarf are both still living their best lives after false accusations.
And then, the Duke Lacrosse players that I’m sure someone will bring up:
Collin Finnerty? Loyota University held a seat on their lacrosse team for him till the case resolved. He graduated as a communications major and also landed a pretegious job at Deutsche Bank.
In fact, the only person I can think of off the top of my head who didn’t get vindication after a false accusations was Emmitt Till. Huh, funny how that goes.
I don’t defend false accusations, but let’s be honest here…we already look at every victim as a liar from the get go. You can have impartial eye witnesses, a tested kit, character witnesses and judges still let them walk.
Maybe….just maybe…if we got any justice for the ones who did everything right and were “good” victims, there wouldn’t be the need for people to hold it in for decades as these people move up in power. Maybe they’ll report right away and then they won’t be a part of our judicial system at all.
Hey quick tip –
If you’re going to block someone because they call you out on your disgusting apologist bullshit, make sure they don’t have a separate account!
“Hey, here’s a few examples of false allegations that didn’t successfully keep the falsely accused from continuing on with their lives – that TOTALLY PROVES that false allegations never ever ruin anyone’s life!”
It’s not as if people have killed themselves, or been murdered over false allegations. NO WAY! It’s not as if people have spent literal years in jail on false rape allegations. NAH!
Because you can name a handful of high profile cases brought against a bunch of already rich, successful men, that means that there aren’t a bunch of cases your peabrain couldn’t be bothered to look up.
You’re mitigating false accusations, right now, while denying that you do it. You’re an apologist.
You want to pretend it’s “no big deal” and say this is because we presume innocence before proof of guilt is shown.
You say “let’s be honest” and then dishonestly spin this bullshit to shift the blame somewhere else.
And what’s more, you’re a fucking coward.
>In fact, the only person I can think of off the top of my head who didn’t get vindication after a false accusations was Emmitt Till. Huh, funny how that goes.
So you memorized a bunch of people who did get off okay, but the only person you can remember who got screwed over was a black man, and thus something you can blame on race instead of sexism? Not even the Scottsboro boys?
Okay, let’s be honest, you either Googled and you’re lying, or you’re so biased you can’t even bother to actually see if there’s any dude whose life was screwed up by a false accusation.
>I don’t defend false accusations, but let’s be honest here…we already look at every victim as a liar from the get go. You can have impartial eye witnesses, a tested kit, character witnesses and judges still let them walk.
“Innocent until proven guilty” is not the same as “the accuser is lying”, you liar. People have sent the wrong person to jail in good faith before. In fact, >here’s the story of a white lady who accused the wrong black dude<. When he was let out, they became friends, wrote a book, and are now pushing for reform.
>Maybe….just maybe…if we got any justice for the ones who did everything right and were “good” victims, there wouldn’t be the need for people to hold it in for decades as these people move up in power. Maybe they’ll report right away and then they won’t be a part of our judicial system at all.
Ah, yes, because rape victims – people who have just gone through traumatic experiences – are always rational actors with all the facts when they assess their risks of being believed, and totally not subject to misconceptions and prejudices like most people.
Wouldn’t the optimal thing to do be to report it as soon as possible? Heck, Ford hasn’t even officially told the MD cops, who could still open a case! You’re basing your stupid, stupid argument first, on the assumption that Ford was raped by Kavanaugh, and then wild assumptions about her motives!
Maybe feminists should stop spreading myths about a woman’s chance of being believed that rely on statistics about rapes where over half the rapes which supposedly happened are just estimates, even though rape has about the same conviction rate as most crimes, IIRC!
I know you’re trying to sound patronizing, but it just makes you look silly.
I can’t imagine why someone who was so certain they were right would block someone else just to get the last word.
Almost like you’re insecure and know you’re full of crap.
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